That Was The Week That Was…Coach And Horses In Chester Green

What a week…pubs reopening and Keir Starmer gets booted out by a landlord!  No politics on this site of course and it could quite easily have been any politician from any party but fair play to a publican for sticking up for himself after being shafted left, right and centre for months..

Rumours that the last people to be banned from this pub in Bath were Dave and Dick after one of their pub visits to Blighty coincided with bumping into Martin and the carnage that involves are, as yet, unconfirmed.

If all that excitement, allied to a cask renaissance, wasn’t enough then there was also the European Super League Drama (yawn) where a lot of rich clubs get a bit richer by playing against their mates and the organisations that created the problems PL, UEFA and FA suddenly take the moral high ground in football.

The equivalent would be someone like Hansie Cronje taking the high ground and calling Lance Armstrong a cheat.

I don’t care if these clubs go as football sold out a long time ago and I can’t see it affecting my club, Birmingham City.

However, I can exclusively reveal on this blog that the ‘BIG 18’ myself, Martin, Mark Shirley, Duncan, Paul WME, BRAPA, Mudgie, Stirchley Pete, Mappiman, Paul Bailey, Chris Dyson, Citra, Blackpool Jane, The Beertonian, The Travelling Barman, Tandleman, and Tamworth Mark have all been in negotiations. 

Talks are ongoing with representatives of  Ibstock, Coalville, Whitwick, Swannington, Hugglescote and three other unnamed LE67 suburbs about a super blogging league.

Incentives mooted are 400 pints of Bass per year, unlimited supplies of beermats and a guaranteed pub character in every boozer to enable enough ammunition for posts.

Of course, this might mean the end of the road for Pub Hermit and The Wickingman but with their opulent Hampshire and Peak District lifestyles, they can cope with the downturn in blogging income.

However, THE big news of this past week has been pubs reopening…okay, okay I know it’s only beer gardens, pub car parks and makeshift marquees but the omens are positive, as punters are coming out to support.

Most landlords have been welcoming in punters – apart from Rod Humphris in The Raven of course – and a prime example of this is Mark Shirley’s favourite Derby boozer 616 – Coach And Horses DE1 3RF.

This completes my hat trick of Chester Green pubs after visiting the now defunct Duke of Clarence and open (but not yet) Little Chester Ale House, this is definitely the big behemoth in this surprisingly tranquil area of Derby.

It’s a real mix of factories and urban grit alongside some inner city parkland, churches and a busy main road.

The Coach and Horses is, apparently, one of those pubs which still has old skool pub games inside and it certainly felt like a ‘proper pub.’

I messaged beforehand to check they’d be open about 6.15 and the gaffer, a geezer called Eamon, confirmed they were open for business and he met me by the sign in table where a smattering of pub benches/tables were in the car park.

“We’ve got no cask on till next week…but I’ve got bottles of Old Peculier.”  This isn’t normally on my radar but the pubs are open and I thought why not.

Pub ticker connoisseurs might say drinking a bottle in a car park doesn’t constitute a visit but it certainly does as the fact it was in a Bass glass trumps all previous rules!

It was actually top class and will be on the agenda in the future…a group of about four likely lads arrived and looked like they were settling for a giggle whilst couples, blokes on their own and pub bloggers were also in attendance.

A great atmosphere although it was definitely jumper (that’s sweater Russ/Dave) weather by that time and highlighted one of the possible problems if the weather turns…

Some proper pubbery though and further proof that publicans want you in their boozers…unless you’re an MP of course.

39 thoughts on “That Was The Week That Was…Coach And Horses In Chester Green

  1. Weird note on the Raven. Interestingly enough, the Raven is one of the two pubs where Dick truly fell in love with the English pub. He loved sitting in there. We met some interesting dudes in that pub.

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  2. I’m not interested in the Super League Beermat, I just don’t think you can afford me. Besides, it’ll be too much like the Scottish league, you and Retired Martin battling it out for the top spot while the rest of us kick each others shins in the mud…

    Interior views and the Coach & Horses famous Skittle Alley (the only one in Derby Town-ish) can of course be seen here: https://pub-games.blogspot.com/2020/08/coach-and-horses-derby.html?m=1

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    1. I remember your post on the Coach and Horses and a rare sighting of a skittle alley…top stuff!!! I knew once the cracks appeared in the Blogging Super League it was guaranteed to collapse although I had you and Duncan down as Aberdeen and Dundee Utd of the eighties and the New Order!

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  3. This post appeared on Twitter at 01:03am this morning yet Dave had commented by 12:20am so it’s clear who got the preferential viewing rights for your blog.

    I think bottled Old Peculier in a Bass glass by the road is #SavingPubs.

    Your analysis of the football thing which bores me to tears is by far the best I’ll read. It’s almost like you bring a professional football mind to it or something. Wish I could chat it over with you over a 500ml bottle of something in a pub garden.

    NB If Birmingham were to win, say, the League Cuo (daft idea I know), I guess they’d play in the Europa Cup ? WHEN they get back in the Premier League they’ll still play the Arsenals and City and Liverpool, I guess ?

    The Champs League has been a farce since you didn’t need to be the champions to win it.

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    1. Dave has paid a lot of money for exclusive rights – he was the mystery backer behind the failed Blogging Super League.
      Birmingham win a major trophy!!! It’ll never happen…oh hang on it has once in my lifetime…
      Agree re Champions League should be a shortened format of champions only and that would mean less games and players wouldn’t need to rest as much….oh but less money (there was me thinking player welfare was more important)
      Anyway, more importantly, the Old Peculier was marvellous and one that is now on my “I want to drink that” list

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  4. Hi Beermat, I’m still waiting on further details about the broadcasting deal before I commit to the ‘Big 18’. Clearly the WME blog needs more global exposure so that folks in China and Russia can get their fix of Gornal Wood and Cradley Heath, but I best not price myself out of the market…

    For once I’ve actually been in one of your Derbyshire calling points! I remember the Coach & Horses as a properly down-to-earth pub – it got upstaged by the Little Chester Ale House but we still had good ale and decent banter, although I didn’t get chance to test any Old Peculiers in the car park. Cheers, Paul

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  5. “Of course, this might mean the end of the road for Pub Hermit ……”

    You may be right – definitely not superleague material – in fact I’ll be lucky to stay in the Championship …;)

    You may have missed a key incentive for the Pub Blogger Superleague – a mascot for all bloggers (to be photographed with a pint in every pub)

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    1. That’s a great point about mascots and I think that was one of the crucial factors in it’s failure!!!!
      You were always signed up but I was going to draft you and The Wickingman in on the second wave for maximum publicity…..

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  6. “but fair play to a publican for sticking up for himself after being shafted left, right and centre for months..”

    Agreed!

    “Rumours that the last people to be banned from this pub in Bath were Dave and Dick after one of their pub visits to Blighty coincided with bumping into Martin and the carnage that involves are, as yet, unconfirmed.”

    (slow golf clap)

    “there was also the European Super League Drama (yawn) where a lot of rich clubs get a bit richer by playing against their mates and the organisations that created the problems PL, UEFA and FA suddenly take the moral high ground in football.”

    An insightful summary. 😉

    “The equivalent would be someone like Hanse Cronje taking the high ground and calling Lance Armstrong a cheat.”

    Had to look up Hansie (note the added ‘i’). All I can say is…

    (slow golf clap) 🙂

    “and I can’t see it affecting my club, Birmingham City.”

    Ouch!

    “Talks are ongoing with representatives of Ibstock, Coalville, Whitwick, Swannington, Hugglescote and three other unnamed LE67 suburbs about a super blogging league.”

    (guffaw!)

    “and a guaranteed pub character in every boozer to enable enough ammunition for posts.”

    Just tell the pub ahead of time that Si’s coming for a visit. 😉

    “Of course, this might mean the end of the road for Pub Hermit and The Wickingman but with their opulent Hampshire and Peak District lifestyles, they can cope with the downturn in blogging income.”

    I know, right? Posh buggers (at least Pub Hermit is). 🙂

    “Most landlords have been welcoming in punters – apart from Rod Humphris in The Raven of course”

    For a second there I thought you meant The Raven in Sheffield! Phe

    “The Coach and Horses is, apparently, one of those pubs which still has old skool pub games inside and it certainly felt like a ‘proper pub.’”

    Looks it as well.

    “and he met my by the sign in table”

    He met your what? 😉

    ““We’ve got no cask on till next week…but I’ve got bottles of Old Peculier.” ”

    Takes me back! (sigh)*

    * A gorgeous sunny day in the summer of 1981. Me and a six pack of Old Peculier sitting near Urquhart Castle looking for Nessie. Pretty sure I saw her after the sixth bottle! 🙂

    “Pub ticker connoisseurs might say drinking a bottle in a car park doesn’t constitute a visit but it certainly does as the fact it was in a Bass glass trumps all previous rules!”

    Good point!

    Also, you lot can hash that out in the super blogging league. 🙂

    “A great atmosphere although it was definitely jumper (that’s sweater Russ/Dave) weather”

    Pfft. I knew that! I’ll have you know all of my relatives are British. Me Ma and Da got married in 1952 and then proceeded to sail to Canada. 😉

    “Some proper pubbery though and further proof that publicans want you in their boozers…unless you’re an MP of course.”

    Trifecta!

    (slow golf clap)

    Cheers!

    PS – You explain ‘jumper’ to us but not ‘Blighty’? 😉

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    1. “I know, right? Posh buggers (at least Pub Hermit is). ”

      What’s the world coming to now that even the blog commenters are getting all edgy and contraversial?

      I blame that Sheffield bloke, Retired Martin. 🙂

      At least the Bloggers Superleague is now cancelled after Sir Tim threatened to ban them all from Weatherspoons…;)

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      1. “What’s the world coming to now that even the blog commenters are getting all edgy and contraversial?”

        I’m pent UP from being locked DOWN. 😉

        Cheers!

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    2. Love the fact that Rotherham boy Hermit is now classed as posh within the confines of this blog!!!
      Mind you compared to Hull (BRAPA), Tamworth (T Mark) and Wolves (Paul) he is positively cosmopolitan!
      A six pack of OP old boy…dear me, that must have got messy…

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  7. I take it that you are prepared to act as our joint agent Beermat, with regard to the formation of this new, “Super Blogging” league?

    Before signing up though, can you please confirm that the figure of 400 pints of Bass per year is per person, and not for the league members as a group?

    Meanwhile, back in the real world, bottles of Old Peculier sound just the ticket for keeping warm on these cold Spring evenings. ❄️☃️😁

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    1. More than happy to act as your agent Paul (for 50% commission of course!) I can confirm that the deal (funded by Dave) was for 400 pints per year per person but due to huge complaints from Kent CAMRA amongst others it has had to be withdrawn!!!
      Yes, I am a definite convert to Old Peculier as it has really distinctive taste.

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  8. BB I’m not ashamed to say that I’m quite taken by the idea of being a member of the BIG 18. As a Birmingham City fan in a league with no relegation how could I not be?!!

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    1. Absolutely! I share your views as no more corrupt than the Champions League, UEFA, etc etc. Also no relegation would give us more time to build on our 200 year plan for world domination. 2075 we will be crowned kings of Europe…

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  9. Ahhhhhh I absolutely love little micros such as little chester. I’ve only visited once, I’m gonna say 2014 on a CAMRA ‘thank you’ trip for volunteering at my local beer festival. I quite clearly remember walking down that long street adjacent to the park that the little Chester lies at the bottom of. A Saturday afternoon, so quiet it felt like our gang had Derby all to ourselves. Fortunately the coach load of us had divided into 3 groups, so we were just able to squeeze into place.

    Fair play to the landlord for sticking to his principles and refusing entry into his pub. Old traditional pub games eh, now then, this sounds fun!

    Flattered to make your top 18! Bring back the milk cup or Anglo English-Italia cup instead of this super European nonsense!

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    1. Yes you’re right it’s like a little oasis amongst all the houses and has that calming effect…. little Chester is a cracking boozer and always lively…
      Anglo Italian, Texaco Trophy, Full Members, Watney Cup and Birmingham Senior Cup… all more credible than the Champions League or Europa League 💙

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      1. Little oasis, like that! It certainly did feel very calming strolling down the road & enjoying a relaxing pint in the little Chester.

        I’ve seen my fair share of Birmingham senior cup matches, crackin competition. I watched Stourbridge lift the trophy about 2 seasons ago. They beat Hednesford in the dying seconds on the break a 1v1 at St Andrew’s, very much deserved!

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      2. Tell a lie it was 3 seasons ago they won the Bham senior cup.

        Gary Hackett resigned the end of the following season prior to losing to Alvechurch in the playoffs. Ironically his replacement was the alvechurch manager. Hackett was great for Stourbridge he’ll be fondly remembered. Promoted twice in the early days but quite honestly he could (should) have another to his name. His latter time in charge they had promotion in the grasp of their hands and kept throwing it away, it was almost as if the chairman was saying do enough to keep the fans coming week after week but do not get us promoted. After the 3rd consecutive season not securing promotion when arguably they should have fans really did begin to wonder if financially it would cripple them gaining promotion.

        Speaking of cup upsets, Stourbridge have a fantastic recent history in the FA Cup! They’ve had the cameras down there twice I beleive. They’ve faced Plymouth & Northampton in round 2 & Wycombe in round 3 of the competition

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      3. Love these stories!!! I definitely remember Wycombe game on TV and always a good non league club
        I played at Amblecote in my forties for Alvechurch against a team who shared the ground? Can’t think of their name!!!

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  10. I think I missed out on the wycombe game & just missed out on a ticket for Northampton, I was so close in the que to enter the clubhouse when the chairman walked out to declare the allocation was sold out. However I did watch the Plymouth game which was MASSIVE, I watched in the Shovel at Lye (crackin real ale pub) which was picked up by ESPN. Rumours were they recieved about 30k for the match being broadcast live. Huge amount of money for Stourbridge.

    Hummm, I don’t recall Stourbridge ever sharing their ground with anybody else in the 10 or so years I’ve began following them. They do however share the ground with the cricket club

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